Zeration
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(03/23/2015, 01:39 PM)marraco Wrote:
(03/21/2015, 11:11 PM)tommy1729 Wrote: a*b = b*a

"add+b"^[a-1](1*b) = "add+a"^[b-1](1*a)
That would mean
b*(a-1)=a*(b-1)

but if "-" is an inverse operator of [q], such that x-y is defined as x-y=x[q]-y, and -y is defined as y[q]-y=N(q,y) then

for [q]=product, "-" would be division, so
Ure misunderstanding the expression \( f^{n}(x) \)

In fact Tommy tryes to replace g and f with "add_b" and "add_1" and the interpretation becomes the following

Quote:General case \( f^{a - N_q}(N_q[q]b) = g^{b - N_q}(N_q[q]a) \)

- Case q=1 with \( [1]=+ \), \( f(x)=g(x)={\rm add}_1(x)=x+1 \) and \( N_1=0 \)

\( {\rm add}_1^{a - N_1}(N_1[1]b) = {\rm add}_1^{b - N_1}(N_1[1]a) \)
\( {\rm add}_1^{a - 0}(0+b) = {\rm add}_1^{b -0}(0+a) \)
\( {\rm add}_1^{a }(b)=a+b =b+a= {\rm add}_1^{b }(a) \)


- Case q=2 with \( [2]=\cdot \), \( f(x)={\rm add}_b(x)=b+x \), \( g(x)={\rm add}_a(x)=a+x \) and \( N_2=1 \)

\( {\rm add}_b^{a - N_2}(N_1[2]b) = {\rm add}_a^{b - N_2}(N_2[2]a) \)
\( {\rm add}_b^{a - 1}(1 \cdot b) = {\rm add}_1^{b -1}(1\cdot a) \)
\( (b+...+b)_{a-1 times}+(b)=(a+...+a)_{b-1 times}+(a) \)
\( b(a-1)+(b)=a(b-1)+(a) \)
\( (ba-b)+(b)=ba=ab=(ab-a)+(a) \)

- Case q=0 with \( [0]=\circ \) and \( N_0=-\infty \), but in this case how we get the following

\( f^{a -(-\infty)}((-\infty)[0]b) = g^{b - (-\infty)}((-\infty)[0]a) \)

\( f^{+\infty}(b) = g^{+\infty}(a) \)


Quote:-∞ is used on all the basic operations:

the neutral of addition is ÷∞=1/∞=0
the neutral of product is ∞√=∞√n=n^÷∞=1
the neutral of exponentiation is \( ^{-\infty}n=n^{\frac{1}{n}} \)

from product viewpoint, all numbers smaller than 0 are transfinite.
from exponentiation of n viewpoint, all numbers smaller than 1 are transfinite.
from tetration of n viewpoint, all numbers smaller than \( n^{\frac{1}{n}} \) are transfinite.
Agree with this last point...
It really deserves some attention imho.

Mother Law \(\sigma^+\circ 0=\sigma \circ \sigma^+ \)

\({\rm Grp}_{\rm pt} ({\rm RK}J,G)\cong \mathbb N{\rm Set}_{\rm pt} (J, \Sigma^G)\)
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RE: Zeration - by mathamateur - 07/30/2009, 06:31 AM
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RE: Zeration - by bo198214 - 02/21/2008, 10:18 PM
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RE: Zeration - by quickfur - 02/21/2008, 11:04 PM
RE: Zeration - by quickfur - 02/21/2008, 11:12 PM
RE: Zeration - by KAR - 02/21/2008, 11:04 PM
RE: Zeration - by quickfur - 02/21/2008, 11:52 PM
RE: Zeration - by GFR - 02/24/2008, 12:39 AM
RE: Zeration - by Ivars - 02/24/2008, 02:50 PM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/20/2015, 09:59 PM
RE: Zeration - by bo198214 - 02/24/2008, 11:02 AM
RE: Zeration - by GFR - 03/19/2008, 12:40 PM
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RE: Delta Numbers As HyperReals - by Ivars - 03/26/2008, 12:15 PM
RE: Zeration - by GFR - 03/26/2008, 12:22 AM
RE: Zeration - by GFR - 04/05/2008, 08:58 PM
RE: Zeration - by Igor M - 01/14/2009, 04:04 PM
RE: Zeration - by bo198214 - 01/20/2009, 09:59 PM
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RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/20/2015, 09:44 AM
RE: Zeration - by Catullus - 06/13/2022, 10:43 PM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 06/13/2022, 10:48 PM
RE: Zeration - by Catullus - 06/13/2022, 10:56 PM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/20/2015, 10:41 PM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/21/2015, 12:35 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/21/2015, 01:44 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/21/2015, 04:10 AM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 03/21/2015, 11:53 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/23/2015, 07:58 AM
RE: Zeration - by tommy1729 - 03/21/2015, 11:11 PM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/23/2015, 08:05 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/24/2015, 11:29 AM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 03/23/2015, 09:00 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 03/23/2015, 01:39 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 03/23/2015, 02:31 PM
RE: Zeration - by Stanislav - 05/28/2015, 11:12 PM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 05/29/2015, 01:33 AM
RE: Zeration - by Stanislav - 05/29/2015, 09:06 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 06/03/2015, 01:40 PM
RE: Zeration - by Stanislav - 06/04/2015, 06:44 AM
RE: Zeration - by marraco - 06/04/2015, 08:44 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 06/05/2015, 09:10 PM
RE: Zeration - by Stanislav - 09/09/2015, 10:04 PM
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RE: Zeration - by Catullus - 06/13/2022, 10:48 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 06/16/2022, 10:28 PM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 06/14/2022, 01:16 AM
RE: Zeration - by Catullus - 06/14/2022, 04:31 AM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 06/14/2022, 05:38 AM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 06/30/2022, 11:32 PM
RE: Zeration - by Catullus - 06/30/2022, 11:37 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 06/30/2022, 11:47 PM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 12/28/2022, 01:28 PM
RE: Zeration - by JmsNxn - 12/30/2022, 02:45 AM
RE: Zeration - by MphLee - 01/05/2023, 08:53 PM
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