continuation of fix A to fix B ?
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Thank you for your useful insightful reply James.

I wanted to add that we can use the same trick for 0 or 1 fixpoint as well.

The 0 fixpoint case is a bit complicated and relates to quite old posts i made.
Usually mixing sums and limits and sometimes summability methods.
That case might not even be analytic.

However I wanted to share the beauty of the 1 fixpoint case.

WLOG lets set the fixpoint at 0 to make things easy.

sketch of the idea :

I will use the example f(x) := 5x + x^3 for which we want to find the super and abel function.
( and thereby we get close to taking a half-iterate , but there is a theta function issue )

Finding the superfunction S(x) such that S(x+1) = f(S(x)) follows by using the classical koenigs function around the fixpoint 0.


So we are left to find

F(x) such that F(f(x)) = c F(x)

( from which by taking log_c(x) we find the abel function ... notice however this abel might not be the inverse of the koenigs function !! Hence not necc giving the half-iterate by combining this abel with the koenigs function. aka the theta function issue mentioned above )

notice f ' (0) = 5.

Also notice n iterates of f(x) grow about x^(3^n)

So we get for appropriate c :

F(x) = sum_k c^k asinh( f^[k](x) )

where the sum runs over all integer k.

notice asinh is close to id(x) near 0.

and asin(x^(3^n)) is close to 3^n.

so if for instance c is around 1/4,

our sum behaves a bit like sum_n  (4/5)^n + (3/4)^n 

where the sum runs over positive integers n.

hence it converges !

and we get F(x) such that F(f(x)) = c F(x).

So we see this idea is part of a large family.


I guess you like that.



regards

tommy1729
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continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by tommy1729 - 10/06/2022, 12:57 AM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by JmsNxn - 12/14/2022, 06:41 AM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by JmsNxn - 12/14/2022, 07:07 AM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by JmsNxn - 12/14/2022, 10:05 AM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by JmsNxn - 12/16/2022, 12:46 AM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by JmsNxn - 01/03/2023, 04:06 AM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by tommy1729 - 01/03/2023, 01:26 PM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by JmsNxn - 01/06/2023, 01:28 AM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by JmsNxn - 01/13/2023, 01:08 PM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by Leo.W - 01/19/2023, 06:41 PM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by Leo.W - 01/20/2023, 04:40 AM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by JmsNxn - 01/23/2023, 02:17 AM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by JmsNxn - 01/26/2023, 12:37 AM
RE: continuation of fix A to fix B ? - by JmsNxn - 01/28/2023, 08:14 AM

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