double functional equation , continuum sum and analytic continuation
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Another way or at least idea is this

Reflection idea.

Since f(x^2) - f(x) + x = 0 for all x

,it is possible to extend this idea to all z not on the unit circle.

It even makes that equation differentiable.

Lets say

f(x^2) - f(x) = - 2.

then we try to find x.

A solution is garanteed to exist by the fact that it is analytic when not on the unit circle.

And now we compute f(x) = y

Then we simply set

f(x) = y = f(2)

f(x^2) = f(2^2) = f(4) = - 2 + y.



If this is consistant with the previous post is another matter.


also 

Lets say

f(x^2) - f(x) = - 2.

then we find x.

might be an issue because it might not give a unique x , so more care is needed.


deciding which x might use the stuff from the other post though.


It feels a bit like going from the reals to the complex.

just like x^2 = -1 had no solution before the complex numbers,

f(x^2) - f(x) = -2

has no evident solution in the complex.


Just like finding the real numbers as solutions to the cubic equation required complex numbers ,
maybe finding complex solutions to this

f(z^2) - f(z) = -2

requires new numbers.

Just an idea.


Ok in this case the analogue is a bit weird :

afterall f(z^2) - f(z) = - id(z) when considered literal and f(4) = f(2) = oo ( diverges )

so

oo - oo = -2 ??

maybe with limits ...

Maybe a better analogue is this

sqrt(2)^sqrt(2)^... = 2.

x^(1/x) = sqrt(2)

x= 2

however we have on the other side

x = 4 works as well !!



On the other hand solving f(x^2) - f(x) might not be easier than computing f(x)
so the benefit is not proven.

***


I also suggested another reflection idea in the past and recently again.

The reflection formula is simply based on the shape of the boundary :


f( z ) = f ( conjugate (1/z) )

or

f( z ) = f ( 1 / z )

This might give the conditions

f(z^2) - f(z) = - z

f(z^4) = f(z) - z - z^2

f(z^(-1)) = f(z)

a triple functional equation ??

but does this not give contradictions somewhere ???

LETS SEE

if

f(z) = f(1/z)

f( 1/z^2 ) = f(z^2)


so

f(z) = 1/z + 1/z^2 + 1/z^4 + 1/z^8 + ...

for |z| > 1

f(z^2) = f(z) - z
should hold

but now for

f(z^2) = f(z) - 1/z !!!

if |z| > 1.


These lead to conditional functional equations rather than new numbers !

So in this case * if you accept it *

we get

for Re(z) < 1

f(z^2) = f(z) - z

f(z^4) = f(z) - z - z^2

and for Re(z) > 1

f(z^2) = f(z) - 1/z

f(z^4) = f(z) - 1/z - 1/z^2

and for all z not on the unit circle

f(z) = f(1/z)

well assuming all paradoxes have now been removed.

regards

tommy1729
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RE: double functional equation , continuum sum and analytic continuation - by tommy1729 - 03/03/2023, 06:59 PM

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