12/07/2014, 05:32 PM
What I wrote is in perfect harmony with sup and beth numbers.
Maybe I should apologize for my tricky question.
Tricky because trying to answer might be a trap.
Long ago , I was challenged on sci.math to answer my own question.
There cannot be a bijection from exp^[1/2](w) to w nor 2^w.
Here is why :
Let f(x) be exp^[1/2](x) + o(1).
If card f(w) = card w then
card f(f((w)) = card f( card f(w) ) = card f(w) = card(w)
But f(f(w)) = 2^w
Contradiction
If card f(w) = card 2^w then
card f(f(w)) = card f ( card f(w) ) = card f ( 2^w ) = card(2^(2^w))
But f(f(w)) = 2^w
Contradiction
Likewise for exp^[a] with noninteger a.
SO exp^[1/2] does not exist in set theory.
SO set theory is not suitable for functions since only the power function 2^ is a function that exists and makes a "difference".
( Polynomials do not make a "difference" , they do not change cardinality )
Considering that infinite set theory is not suitable for functions , it makes more sense to be skeptical about its use in other branches of math such as number theory , algebra , calculus and dynamical systems.
Also notice that even substraction is not well defined (for ordinals) since w-1 does not even exist.
That should shed some light on my skeptisism.
( it is JUST the tip of the iceberg , there is way more reason to be skeptical )
Since half-iterates (functions) do usually not exist in set theory , I do not see how one can continue to combine set theory and dynamics.
regards
tommy1729
" Truth is what does not go away when you stop believing in it "
Maybe I should apologize for my tricky question.
Tricky because trying to answer might be a trap.
Long ago , I was challenged on sci.math to answer my own question.
There cannot be a bijection from exp^[1/2](w) to w nor 2^w.
Here is why :
Let f(x) be exp^[1/2](x) + o(1).
If card f(w) = card w then
card f(f((w)) = card f( card f(w) ) = card f(w) = card(w)
But f(f(w)) = 2^w
Contradiction
If card f(w) = card 2^w then
card f(f(w)) = card f ( card f(w) ) = card f ( 2^w ) = card(2^(2^w))
But f(f(w)) = 2^w
Contradiction
Likewise for exp^[a] with noninteger a.
SO exp^[1/2] does not exist in set theory.
SO set theory is not suitable for functions since only the power function 2^ is a function that exists and makes a "difference".
( Polynomials do not make a "difference" , they do not change cardinality )
Considering that infinite set theory is not suitable for functions , it makes more sense to be skeptical about its use in other branches of math such as number theory , algebra , calculus and dynamical systems.
Also notice that even substraction is not well defined (for ordinals) since w-1 does not even exist.
That should shed some light on my skeptisism.
( it is JUST the tip of the iceberg , there is way more reason to be skeptical )
Since half-iterates (functions) do usually not exist in set theory , I do not see how one can continue to combine set theory and dynamics.
regards
tommy1729
" Truth is what does not go away when you stop believing in it "

