Beyond + and -
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(08/17/2012, 01:25 AM)JmsNxn Wrote: Your operator is very simple actually:

x§y = \sgn(x) (|x|-y)
Interesting, it seems to be true in some cases.

4§3=1=1*(|4|-3)
-4§3=-1=-1*(|-4|-3)=-1

But

3§4=§1!=-1=1(|3|-4)

So your definition works only in special cases, and is not a general equivalence.

(08/17/2012, 01:25 AM)JmsNxn Wrote: Nothing really special about it at all
I don't know, it was new for me and I found it interesting.

(08/17/2012, 01:25 AM)JmsNxn Wrote: 0 § y is absolutely nothing because \sgn(0) is inexistent
So you give me a incomplete definition that is supposed to be equivalent to mine and so my definition is false? Seems like a flawed approach to me Wink.

Even if your definition was right, sometimes it is useful to add "inexistent" things to math - like sqrt(-1). I don't see how my example is any different, maybe it is useless, but I don't see why it should be.
I am not sure, it might be that § extends the algebraic signs with a sign for 0? It may make sense, since it "neutralizes" numbers, and §1*-1 seems to be 0 (if I didn't ake an error above).

Also your approach says nothing about multiplication (and beyond).

(08/17/2012, 01:25 AM)JmsNxn Wrote: And the solution to your algebraic equation (-X+Y=X+Y) is X = 0
Obviously, but now there are infnite solutions where X!=0.
So it solves -1+Y=1+Y, etc...
Also it seems to solve -1/X+1/Y=1/X+1/Y with Y=§1*X (at least for positive X), which is not solvable in the integers.
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Messages In This Thread
Beyond + and - - by Benny - 08/16/2012, 05:35 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by JmsNxn - 08/17/2012, 01:25 AM
RE: Beyond + and - - by Benny - 08/17/2012, 11:58 AM
RE: Beyond + and - - by tommy1729 - 08/17/2012, 03:18 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by Benny - 08/19/2012, 05:24 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by tommy1729 - 08/21/2012, 11:04 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by tommy1729 - 08/22/2012, 11:04 AM
RE: Beyond + and - - by Benny - 08/22/2012, 12:09 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by tommy1729 - 08/22/2012, 02:05 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by Benny - 08/22/2012, 06:34 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by tommy1729 - 08/22/2012, 10:07 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by tommy1729 - 08/22/2012, 10:20 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by Benny - 08/23/2012, 12:08 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by tommy1729 - 08/23/2012, 02:12 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by Benny - 08/23/2012, 03:33 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by tommy1729 - 08/23/2012, 04:12 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by Benny - 08/23/2012, 07:41 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by hixidom - 05/28/2014, 01:40 AM
RE: Beyond + and - - by JmsNxn - 05/28/2014, 04:33 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by hixidom - 05/28/2014, 04:46 PM
RE: Beyond + and - - by tommy1729 - 05/28/2014, 10:44 PM



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