help with a distributivity law
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Well I've been working on trying to generalize a set of operators that are commutative and associative, and everything works fairly fine until I come to the distributivity law across addition and f-addition.

The concepts are very simple and the algebra is very simple, but the contradiction just keeps me bewildered. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


We start off by defining f-multiplication:
\( a\,\otimes_f\,b = f(f^{-1}(a)\,+\,f^{-1}(b)) \)

right off the bat we see \( \otimes_f \) is commutative and associative.

We can create it's super-operator, called f-exponentiation:

\( a^{\otimes_f b} = f(b\cdot f^{-1}(a)) \)

which is distributive across f-multiplication:
\( (a\,\otimes_f\,b)^{\otimes_f c} = (a^{\otimes_f\,b})\,\otimes_f\,(b^{\otimes_f\, c}) \)

The trouble comes when we try to develop f-addition, which is defined such that f-multiplication is it's super operator.

For this definition we first need to define f-division, which is the inverse of f-multiplication:

\( a\,\oslash_f\,b= a\,\otimes_f\,(b^{\otimes_f\, -1}) = f(f^{-1}(a)\, -\, f^{-1}(b)) \)

Therefore f-addition is given by the usual super function/abel function equation:
\( a\,\oplus_f\,b = b\, \otimes_f\,((a\,\oslash_f\,b) + 1) \)

furthermore we also know this extends more generally to:
\( a\,\oplus_f\,(b\,\otimes_f\, k)= b \, \otimes_f \, ((a\,\oslash_f\,b)\,+\,k) \)

That is, if we give the condition that \( f(0)=1 \) which I do.

and here's where we get our contradiction. if we let \( u = a\,\oslash_f\,b \) we instantly see:

\( b \, \otimes_f \, (u\,+\,k) = (b\,\otimes_f\,u)\,\oplus_f\,(b\,\otimes_f\,k) \)

and now if we let \( b = f(0) \) which is the identity of \( \otimes_f \), we get:

\( f(0) \, \otimes_f \, (u\,+\,k) = (f(0)\,\otimes_f\,u)\,\oplus_f\,(f(0)\,\otimes_f\,k) \)

\( u \,+\, k = u\,\oplus_f\,k \)

This is obviously false so I'm wondering, can we simply not have the distributivity law? And if so, why? What exact step am I doing that is inconsistent?

furthermore if we have the distributive law, we also get another distributive law thanks to the commutative and associative nature of \( \otimes_f \)

\( a\,\otimes_f\,(b\,\oplus_f\,c) = (a\,\otimes_f\,b) + (a\,\oplus_f\,c) \)

so it's like f-multiplication converts f-addition and addition back and forth. Which is consistent when we set \( f(x) = b^x \) and f-multiplication becomes multiplication. but otherwise it becomes oddly inconsistent.

again, anyhelp would be greatly appreciated.
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help with a distributivity law - by JmsNxn - 09/18/2011, 03:23 PM
RE: help with a distributivity law - by tommy1729 - 09/21/2011, 01:51 PM
RE: help with a distributivity law - by tommy1729 - 09/21/2011, 06:48 PM
RE: help with a distributivity law - by JmsNxn - 09/22/2011, 03:32 PM

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