06/08/2011, 01:18 PM
(06/08/2011, 09:55 AM)bo198214 Wrote: It is the iteration at infinity.
To see whats happening there one moves the fixpoint at infinity to 0, by conjugating with 1/x:
\( g(x)=\frac{1}{(\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)^2+1}=\frac{x^2}{x^2+1} \)
in thread tid 403 I , Bo , Mike and Ben already discussed moving fixpoints
in particular - as the title says - f(f(x)) = exp(x) + x.
this thread seems similar.
however , i consider this slightly different.
exp(x) + x has a " true " fixpoint at oo.
with " true " i mean that it touches the id(x) line.
in this case of x^2 + 1 , i would not call oo a fixpoint , but rather say that Bo uses so-called " linearization " :
g^[-1](f^[n](g(x))) = [g^[-1](f(g(x))]^[n]
Quote:\( g^t(x)=\lim_{n\to\infty} \beta^{-1}(\beta(x)^{2^t}) \).
you take lim n -> oo ... and then i see no n.
so this needs a correction.
Quote:Again similar to the Schröder case, we have an alternative expression:
\( g^t(x)=\lim_{n\to\infty} g^{-n}\left(g^n(x)^{2^t}\right) \)
If we even roll back our conjugation with \( 1/x \) we get:
\( f^t(x)=\lim_{n\to\infty} f^{-n}\left(f^n(x)^{2^t}\right) \).
i dont get how you arrive at this ... g and f on both sides ?
Quote:This may lead into a new way of computing fractional iterates of exp, because we just approximate exp(x) with polynomials \( \sum_{n=0}^N \frac{x^n}{n!} \) and approximate the half-iterate of exp with the half-iterate of these polynomials.
hmm ... i wonder if (x^2 + 1)^[h] is analytic at x = 0 for small h.
the reason is that lim h-> 0 (x^2 + 1)^[h] = abs(x) and abs(x) is not analytic at 0.
im not sure about being analytic elsewhere either , though maybe levy böttcher schröder imply so ( i still do not know enough about them ).
also approximating exp with polynomials might be troublesome ; does the n'th approximation of the half-iterate converge when n -> oo ? do we really get an analytic function at n = oo ?
as a bad example that does not make sense in the case of exp(x) but gives an idea of what i mean ( i dont have a good one for the moment ) for instance if an n'th polynomial satisfies f(x) = f(-x) we are in trouble.
polynomials also have zero's and those zero's will need to drift towards oo fast if the sequence of polynomials wants to approximate exp(x) well.
so i suggest working with the (n^2)'th polynomial approximations , rather then compare the n'th with the (n+1)'th.
despite much comment , dont get me wrong , i like this idea.
regards
tommy1729

