the inconsistency depending on fixpoint-selection
#20
bo198214 Wrote:However your second transformation
\( x' = -4 x +1 \), \( x'' = -\frac{1}{4} x + \frac{1}{4} \), \( g_1(x)=f(x'')' \)
has as translation \( \tau(x)=x+\frac{1}{4} \) the same translation as in your previous transformation!
Only \( \mu \) changes to \( \mu(x)=-\frac{1}{4}x \).

So this second transformation moves also the *greater* fixed point to 0. And we have seen that we can dismiss any multiplicative conjugation \( \mu^{-1}\circ f\circ \mu \) with respect to regular iteration. So it has of course the same result (fractional iteration of \( f \)) as your first transformation.

Yepp - I just found the position of the error, grmmpff. It is in
Code:
´
using e1=1/4                                e2 = -1/4  
      d1=1/4 / e1 =1                        d2 = 1/4 / e2 = -1

x' =  4x - 1                               x´ = -4x + 1
x" =  (x+1)/4                              x´´= (x-1)/-4


Although I had already that not e or d, but e*d = fixpoint, in the computation of d2, I used the same (1/4) as for d1. For clarity, I should have written a symbol for the selected fixpoint:

Code:
´
involving fixpoint p=1/4                    fixpoint q=-1/4
using e1=1/4                                e2 = -1/4  
      d1=p / e1 =1                          d2 = q / e2 = 1

x' =  4x - 1                               x´ = -4x - 1
x" =  (x+1)/4                              x´´= (x+1)/-4


Hope this corrects things, didn't check it again yet, but it seems that this reflects just the simple sign-changing in the matrices.
The previous G2-matrix and the subsequent considerations in that posting are on a false assumption... Sad

Gottfried
Gottfried Helms, Kassel
Reply


Messages In This Thread
RE: the inconsistency depending on fixpoint-selection - by Gottfried - 03/07/2008, 09:38 PM

Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Exotic fixpoint formulas tommy1729 2 4,660 06/20/2023, 10:10 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  Iteration exercises: f(x)=x^2 - 0.5 ; Fixpoint-irritation... Gottfried 23 90,501 10/20/2017, 08:32 PM
Last Post: Gottfried
  (Again) fixpoint outside Period tommy1729 2 10,543 02/05/2017, 09:42 AM
Last Post: tommy1729
  Polygon cyclic fixpoint conjecture tommy1729 1 8,814 05/18/2016, 12:26 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  The " outside " fixpoint ? tommy1729 0 5,772 03/18/2016, 01:16 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  2 fixpoint pairs [2015] tommy1729 0 6,127 02/18/2015, 11:29 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  [2014] The secondary fixpoint issue. tommy1729 2 12,470 06/15/2014, 08:17 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  Simple method for half iterate NOT based on a fixpoint. tommy1729 2 12,332 04/30/2013, 09:33 PM
Last Post: tommy1729
  2 fixpoint failure tommy1729 1 8,605 11/13/2010, 12:25 AM
Last Post: tommy1729
  abs f ' (fixpoint) = 0 tommy1729 2 12,551 09/09/2010, 10:13 PM
Last Post: tommy1729



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)