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Tetra-series - Gottfried - 11/20/2007
I have another strange, but again very basic result for the alternating series of powertowers of increasing height (I call it Tetra-series, see also my first conjecture at alternating tetra-series )
Assume a base "b", and then the alternating series
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Sb(x) = x - b^x + b^b^x - b^b^b^x +... - ...and for a single term, with h for the integer height (which may also be negative)
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Tb(x,h) = b^b^b^...^x \\ b occurs h-timeswhich -if h is negative- actually means (where lb(x) = log(x)/log(b) )
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Tb(x,-h) = lb(lb(...(lb(x))...) \\ lb occurs h-times-------------------------------------------------------
My first result was, that these series have "small" values and can be summed even if b>e^(1/e) (which is not possible with conventional summation methods). For the usual convergent case e^(-e)<b<e^(1/e) the results can be checked by Euler-summation and they agree perfectly with the results obtained by my matrix-method.(see image below)
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matrix-notation
Sb(x) = (V(x)~ * (I - Bb + Bb^2 - Bb^3 + ... - ...) )[,1]
= (V(x)~ * (I + Bb)^-1 ) [,1]
= V(x)~ * Mb[,1] \\ (at least) for all b>1
= sum r=0..inf x^r * mb[r,1]
serial notation
= sum h=0..inf (-1)^h* Tb(x,h) \\ only possible for e^(-e) < b < e^(1/e)
\\ Euler-summation required-------------------------------------------------------
Now if I extend the series Sb(x) to the left, using lb(x) = log(x)/log(b) for log(x) to base b, then define
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Rb(x) = x - lb(x) + lb(lb(x) - lb(lb(lb(x))) +... - ...This may be computed by the analoguous formula above to that for Mb from the inverse of Bb:
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Lb = (I + Bb^-1)^-1I get for the sum of both by my matrix-method
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Sb(x) + Rb(x) = V(x)~ *Mb[,1] + V(x)~ * Lb[,1]
= V(x)~ * (Mb + Lb)[,1]
= V(x)~ * I [,1]
= V(x)~ * [0,1,0,0,...]~
= x
Sb(x) + Rb(x) = xCode:
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0 = ... lb(lb(x)) - lb(x) + x - b^x + b^b^x - ... + ...x cannot assume the value 1, 0 or any integral height of the powertower b^b^b... since at a certain position we have then a term lb(0), which introduces a singularity.
Using the Tb()-notation for shortness, then the result is
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0 = \sum_{h=-\infty}^{+\infty} T_b(x,h)
\)
and is a very interesting one for any tetration-dedicated...
Gottfried
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An older plot; I used AS(s) with x=1,s=b for Sb(x) there.
(a bigger one AS
RE: Tetra-series - andydude - 11/21/2007
Have you tried computing or plotting \( AS(x^{1/x}) \) or \( AS(x)^{1/AS(x)} \) yet? I would do this but I don't have any code yet for AS(x), and I'm lazy.
Andrew Robbins
RE: Tetra-series - andydude - 11/21/2007
Gottfried Wrote:I get for the sum of both by my matrix-method
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Sb(x) + Rb(x) = V(x)~ *Mb[,1] + V(x)~ * Lb[,1]
= V(x)~ * (Mb + Lb)[,1]
= V(x)~ * I [,1]
= V(x)~ * [0,1,0,0,...]~
= x
Sb(x) + Rb(x) = x
This is what I have the most trouble understanding. First what is your [,1] notation mean? I understand "~" is transpose, and that Bb is the Bell matrix \( Bb = B_x[s^x] \). Second, what I can't see, or is not obvious to me at least, is why:
\( (I + Bb^{-1})^{-1} + (I + Bb)^{-1} = I \)
Is there any reason why this should be so? Can this be proven?
Wait, I just implemented it in Mathematica, and you're right! (as right as can be without a complete proof). Cool! This may just be the single most bizarre theorem in the theory of tetration and/or divergent series.
Andrew Robbins
RE: Tetra-series - Gottfried - 11/21/2007
andydude Wrote:Gottfried Wrote:I get for the sum of both by my matrix-method
Code:.
Sb(x) + Rb(x) = V(x)~ *Mb[,1] + V(x)~ * Lb[,1]
= V(x)~ * (Mb + Lb)[,1]
= V(x)~ * I [,1]
= V(x)~ * [0,1,0,0,...]~
= x
Sb(x) + Rb(x) = x
This is what I have the most trouble understanding. First what is your [,1] notation mean? I understand "~" is transpose, and that Bb is the Bell matrix \( Bb = B_x[s^x] \). Second, what I can't see, or is not obvious to me at least, is why:
\( (I + Bb^{-1})^{-1} + (I + Bb)^{-1} = I \)
Is there any reason why this should be so? Can this be proven?
Wait, I just implemented it in Mathematica, and you're right! (as right as can be without a complete proof). Cool! This may just be the single most bizarre theorem in the theory of tetration and/or divergent series.
Andrew Robbins
Hi Andrew -
first: I appreciate your excitement! Yepp! :-)
second:
(The notation B[,1] refers to the second column of a matrix B)
Yes, I just posed the question, whether (I+B)^-1 + (I+B^-1)^-1 = I in the sci.math- newsgroup. But the proof for finite dimension is simple.
You need only factor out B or B^-1 in one of the expressions.
Say C = B^-1 for brevity
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(I + B)^-1 + (I + C)^-1
= (I + B)^-1 + (CB + C)^-1
= (I + B)^-1 + (C(B + I))^-1
= (I + B)^-1 + (B + I)^-1*C^-1
= (I + B)^-1 + (B + I)^-1*B
= (I + B)^-1 *(I + B)
= IAs long as we deal with truncations of the infinite B and these are well conditioned we can see this identity in Pari or Mathematica with good approximation.
However, B^-1 in the infinite case is usually not defined, since it implies the inversion of the vandermonde matrix, which is not possible.
On the other hand, for infinite lower *triangular* matrices a reciprocal is defined.
The good news is now, that B can be factored into two triangular matrices, like
B = S2 * P~
where P is the pascal-matrix, S2 contains the stirling-numbers of 2'nd kind, similarity-scaled by factorials
S2 = dF^-1 * Stirling2 * dF
(dF is the diagonal of factorials diag(0!,1!,2!,...) )
Then, formally, B^-1 can be written
B^-1 = P~^-1 *S2^-1 = P~^-1 * S1
(where S1 contains the stirling-numbers of 1'st kind, analoguously factorial rescaled, and S1 = S2^-1 even in the infinite case)
B^-1 cannot be computed explicitely due to divergent sums for all entries (rows of P~^-1 by columns of S1), and thus is not defined.
However, in the above formulae for finite matrices we may rewrite C in terms of its factors P and S1, and deal with that decomposition-factors only and arrive at the desired result (I've not done this yet, pure lazyness...)
third:
This suggests immediately new proofs for some subjects I've already dealt with, namely all functions, which are expressed by matrix-operators and infinite series of these matrix-operators.
For instance, I derived the ETA-matrix (containing the values for the alternating zeta-function at negative exponents) from the matrix-expression
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ETA = (P^0 - P^1 + P^2 ....)
= (I + P)^-1Yes- this is a very beautiful and far-reaching fact, I think ...
Gottfried
RE: Tetra-series - Ivars - 11/21/2007
hej gottfried,
iI would sincerely like to understand more about these matrixes, i have a feeling its important, but I could not find in You texts what is I-i suppose it is identityu matrix, but how does it look like?
Best regards,
Ivars
RE: Tetra-series - Gottfried - 11/21/2007
Ivars Wrote:hej gottfried,
iI would sincerely like to understand more about these matrixes, i have a feeling its important, but I could not find in You texts what is I-i suppose it is identityu matrix, but how does it look like?
Best regards,
Ivars
Hi Ivars -
just the matrix containing 1 on its diagonal. So multiplying by it doesn't change a matrix, like multiplication by 1 does not change the multiplicand.
Gottfried
RE: Tetra-series - Gottfried - 11/21/2007
Gottfried Wrote:Yes- this is a very beautiful and far-reaching fact, I think ...I've just received an answer in the newsgroup sci.math by Prof G.A.Edgar who states a numerical discrepancy between my matrix-based conjecture and termwise evaluation of the series.
I cannot resolve the problem completely - the problem doesn't affect the Mb-matrix related conjectures (also of earlier date) but the problem of representation of the alternating series of powers of the reciprocal of Bb by the analoguous expression. I don't have an idea currently, how to cure this and how to correctly adapt my conjecture. So - sigh - I have to retract it for the moment.
[update] I should mention, that this concerns only the Bb-matrix, which is not simply invertible. The application of the idea of the formula to other matrix-operators may be still valid; especially for triangular matrices like P the observation is still valid; I assume, it is also valid for the U-iteration x->exp(x)-1 , since the matrix-operator is the triangular Stirling-matrix. I'll check that today [/update]
[update2] The problem occurs also with the U-iteration and its series of negative heights. Looks like the reciprocal matrix needs some more consideration [/update2]
Gottfried
P.s. I'll add the conversation here later as an attachment.
[update3] A graph which shows perfect match between serial and matrix-method-summation for the Tb-series; and periodic differences between the Rb-series [/update3]
RE: Tetra-series - andydude - 11/21/2007
Ok, so the identity:
\( (I + Bb^{-1})^{-1} + (I + Bb)^{-1} = I \)
holds true for all matrices, not just the Bell matrix of exponentials.
Good to know.
Andrew Robbins
RE: Tetra-series - Gottfried - 11/21/2007
andydude Wrote:Ok, so the identity:
\( (I + Bb^{-1})^{-1} + (I + Bb)^{-1} = I \)
holds true for all matrices, not just the Bell matrix of exponentials.
Good to know.
Andrew Robbins
Regularly invertible matrices (for instance of finite size); and I think, that even infinite matrices can be included, if they are triangular (row- or column-finite) or, if not triangular, at least if some other condition holds (on their eigenvalues or the like). I'll have to perform some more tests...
RE: Tetra-series - andydude - 11/21/2007
Gottfried Wrote:You need only factor out B or B^-1 in one of the expressions.
Say C = B^-1 for brevity
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(I + B)^-1 + (I + C)^-1
= (I + B)^-1 + (CB + C)^-1
= (I + B)^-1 + (C(B + I))^-1
= (I + B)^-1 + (B + I)^-1*C^-1
= (I + B)^-1 + (B + I)^-1*B
= (I + B)^-1 *(I + B)
= I
This completes the proof in my view. Good job.
Andrew Robbins