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Pentation roots self but please you do... - nuninho1980 - 10/18/2010
\( y = \text{Pentaroot}_x (b) = b /\uparrow\uparrow\uparrow x \Leftrightarrow b = y \uparrow\uparrow\uparrow x \)
\( \text{Pentaroot}_2 (2) = ? \)
\( \text{Pentaroot}_3 (3) = ? \)
\( \text{Pentaroot}_4 (4) = ? \)
\( \text{Pentaroot}_5 (5) = ? \)
\( \lim_{x\to\infty}\text{Pentaroot}_x (x) = ? \)
By the results have 5 cases decimais (minimum).
Please you think to calculate on up... I have known its by program Pari/GP (it's very fast).
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RE: Pentation roots self but please you do... - sheldonison - 11/03/2010
(10/18/2010, 12:09 AM)nuninho1980 Wrote: \( y = \text{Pentaroot}_x (b) = b /\uparrow\uparrow\uparrow x \Leftrightarrow b = y \uparrow\uparrow\uparrow x \)Pentation is hard to understand.... Here's my results. I used "b" for the base.
\( \text{Pentaroot}_2 (2) = ? \)
\( \text{Pentaroot}_3 (3) = ? \)
\( \text{Pentaroot}_4 (4) = ? \)
\( \text{Pentaroot}_5 (5) = ? \)
\( \lim_{x\to\infty}\text{Pentaroot}_x (x) = ? \)
By the results have 5 cases decimais (minimum).
Please you think to calculate on up... I have known its by program Pari/GP (it's very fast).
\( b\uparrow\uparrow\uparrow n = n \), for each "n", calculate b
\( \text{sexp}_b(\text{sexp}_b(1))=2 \), calculate b
\( \text{sexp}_b(\text{sexp}_b(\text{sexp}_b(1)))=3 \), calculate b
\( \text{sexp}_b(\text{sexp}_b(\text{sexp}_b(\text{sexp}_b(1))))=4 \), calculate b
and so on, limit as \( n \to \infty \)
n= 2 1.63221539635499
n= 3 1.73480823757765
n= 4 1.73013167405422
n= 5 1.71198477313212
n= 6 1.69588829898111
n=70 1.63599652477221
I calculated these values by simple binary search, but I used "\p 28", which is accurate to ~14 digits, but very fast, 4 seconds for init(B);loop. Only problem is its very easy to get an overflow, so the initial starting based needs to readjusted; for n=70, I used a more complicated algorithm.
Code:
\r kneser.gp
\p 28;
{ curbase=1.6;
curstep=0.1;
while ((curstep>1E-14),
init(curbase);loop;
y = sexp(sexp(B));
if (y>3, curbase=curbase-curstep, curbase=curbase+curstep);
curstep=curstep/2;
); }As n goes to infinity, I would expect the value for b to go to Nuinho's constant, the base for which the upper fixed point of sexp is parabolic,
b=1.635324496715276399345344618306171
- Sheldon
RE: Pentation roots self but please you do... - nuninho1980 - 11/03/2010
It's excellent!! Congratulations!
But you are 2 weeks later. I already could calculate pentaroots but I tried to "explore" each digit by "lottery" up to 5 digits from days 15 to 17, october because I used only "kneser.gp". 
Nuinho's constant - bad but yes Nuninho
thank!
