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RE: Major references - JmsNxn - 12/21/2022 (12/21/2022, 05:56 PM)MphLee Wrote: For example, I'd like to have a quick opinion from you, maybe in a separate thread, on I am not aware of Linda Keen, great find. On her paper: http://comet.lehman.cuny.edu/keenl/forwarditer.pdf She has used very beautiful, fancy language, to prove the degenerate case of infinite compositions. So what she has show is if: \[ F_n = f_1\circ f_2 \circ...\circ f_n\\ \] Taking A SIMPLY CONNECTED DOMAIN (Again, I never need this) to a smaller simply connected domain, then \(F_n \to F\) a constant. Contrast this to my result on degenerate case of infinite compositions. If there is a constant \(A\) such that \(\sum_{n=1}^\infty |f_n - A| < \infty\), then \(F_n \to F\). BUT A HUGE difference I have is that my condition supersedes hers (My condition is actually if and only if--whereby the conditions are either equivalent, or hers is stronger). Especially, my condition is much nicer, because what if \(f_n\) depends on another variable? If I write \(f_n(s,z)\) \[ F_n(s,z) = f_1(s,f_2(s,...f_n(s,z)))\\ \] Her condition of convergence will likely work; but it's not a very practical method. Because \(s\) will perturb everything. Where as in my case, just check that: \[ \sum_{n=1}^\infty |f_n(s,z) - A| < \infty\\ \] Additionally, she allows for \(A = A(z)\), but I don't like this, because she has required that \(A^{\circ k}(z) \to C\), a constant--so she's kind of hid the constant. I like to be direct and flat out point out there is a constant. Also, I call this the degenerate case, because it "kills" a variable, per se. But as far as I can tell our conditions are equivalent (at least very comparable). Hers is just dressed up in a suit and tie EDIT (AGAIN); I mixed up a detail; she is looking at Outer infinite compositions; not inner (I mistakenly wrote inner as a comparison). But the exact same result holds for outer as for inner; she calls outer compositions "forward iterations"--and inner compositions "backward iterations". To me they follow the exact same rules; and it's simply a matter of orientation. Which is something I'm pretty sure I'm the first to rigorously justify. Reading through this paper more, it's a real beaut! But it definitely focuses on the DYNAMICS of infinite compositions. I also think she has done a great way of DEFINING degenerate infinite compositions in a topological sense. Where she almost points out the possibility of non-degenerate infinite compositions (The ones where \(F_n(z) \to F(z)\) is non constant). But it's hard to say. I'll have to digest this more; there's a lot of jargon I don't like because she doesn't clarify some terminology. She's also, in my opinion, using overly advanced tools. We don't need the Poincare metric for really any of this--unless you are trying to pull out specifics of the dynamics. A lot of Complex dynamics will use the Poincare metric for the local case, and it's absolutely warranted. If we're simply asking for the convergence, it's a little unnecessary. I think it's necessary for her theorem, but then, I think her theorem is actually pretty weak (in a constructive sense). It is leagues more descriptive though, than anything I've written; about the qualitative difference between degenerate/non-degenerate cases. But, I just wanna make cool functions I'll have to go through more of her work. She has papers with Devaney, so she is definitely the real deal ![]() EDIT: To give you a bit of an idea of where Keen's theorem lacks; is with the beta method. Keen's theorem does not show that: \[ \beta(s) = \Omega_{j=1}^\infty \frac{e^z}{e^{j-s}+1}\,\bullet z\\ \] converges. This is because \(e^z\) takes no simply connected domain to itself (So all of her theorems are instantly disqualified). If we tried to adapt her reasoning, we could probably show that \(\beta(s)\) converges. BUT THEN! You'd be totally shit outta luck trying to prove that \(\beta(s)\) is holomorphic. Totally shit outta luck, lol ![]() It seems most of her work is centered on the dynamics; and for that I commend it. It is definitely more detailed in the nature of dynamics. That's sort of where most infinite composition theory lines up with; the dynamics of these iterated maps. I always shoot straight for the heart and want cool looking functions, lol. I plan to read more of these papers though--she seems like a straight shooter ![]() EDIT2: -2001 Carracedo, Alix - The Theory of Fractional Powers of Operators I couldn't access this, it appears to be a text book. But from the glimpses I've seen this is about Von Neumann theory on iterating operators on a Hilbert space. Super fun topic. I have a decent understanding of this--mostly because I used some of the common tricks to iterate weird operators back in undergrad. Not sure if this relates too much to iteration theory, as we mean the term. We can only model fractional iterations in L^2 if we stick to \(|\lambda| \neq 0 ,1\) for the multiplier of a function \(f\) (at least as far as I know). -1999 Belitskii, Lyubich - Abel equation and total solvability of linear functional equations This is super cool. It is the solution to: \[ \psi(F(x)) = A(x)\psi(x) + g(x)\\ \] I have solved these equations (through infinite compositions again). But only in restricted scenarios. Specifically I asked for \(L^1\) conditions on \(A\) and \(g\). I haven't digested this paper yet; but it seems entirely novel to what I do to solve these equations. For example, let \(A(x) = e^{x}+1\) and let \(g(x) = e^x\). Then: \[ \psi(x) = \Omega_{j=1}^\infty A(F^{-\circ j}(x)) z + g(F^{\circ -j}(x))\,\,\bullet z \Big{|}_{z=0}\\ \] Assuming that \(F^{\circ -j}(x) \to - \infty\), and we have decently behaved \(F\). Then: \[ \psi(F(x)) = \Omega_{j=0}^\infty A(F^{-\circ j}(x)) z + g(F^{\circ -j}(x))\,\,\bullet z \Big{|}_{z=0}\\ \] Which equals: \(\psi(F(x)) = A(x)\psi(x) + g(x)\). I believe there will be an overlap in our analysis though; there seems to be a kind of common theme. -1956 - Erdos, Jabotinsky - On analytic iteration This paper is definitely reiterating what we all already know. But it's not to knock these titans, I'm just pretty sure we've already learnt through osmosis the contents of this paper. And it's largely stating that if: \[ f^{\circ t}(z) = F(t) : \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}\\ \] Is expandable as an iterate near \(z \approx 0\) Then \(F(t)\) is entire. And if it doesn't take the real line to itself... Well then it takes \(\mathbb{C}/\mathcal{A} \to \mathbb{C}/\mathcal{A}\) where \(\mathcal{A}\) is "measure zero in the two dimensional sense" (It's measure zero in \(\mathbb{R}^2\) under the Lebesgue measure--is how I say it). This is comparable to our result that when \(|\lambda| > 1\) the iteration is entire; and when \(|\lambda| \le 1\) the iteration has branch cuts. -1936 Morgan Ward, F. B. Fuller - The continuous iteration of real functions" Couldn't get a copy of this, but by the looks of it, it looks like all the stuff we already have learned through osmosis. Not to knock the authors; these are again some titans. But still; we've amalgamated this knowledge through the zeitgeist, lol. RE: Major references - JmsNxn - 12/22/2022 Okay, I feel after rereading Linda Keen's paper. I can offer some insight. She is first of all taking the outer composition of an arbitrary sequence of functions. Let's call this sequence \(\{f_n\}_{n=1}^\infty\) where each function takes \(f_n : \mathbb{D} \to \mathbb{D}\)--and is holomorphic. Now let's write: \[ F_n = \mho_{j=1}^n f_j(z)\,\bullet z = f_n(f_{n-1}(...f_1(z)))\\ \] Note first of all, that: \[ F^{-1}_n = \Omega_{j=1}^n f^{-1}_j(z)\,\bullet z\\ \] The object \(F^{-1}_n\to \infty\) (which is because it's the degenerate case). If this converged, we would have that \(F_n\) converges to a non-constant, which is the final goal of Linda Keen's result. To continue; how I would check that \(F_n\) converges is a little different than what I wrote. Outer compositions \(\mho\), what she calls a "forward iteration system", has slightly different, easier, but different rules--in comparison to inner compositions \(\Omega\)/"backward iteration systems." My go to theorem to prove convergence, is that: \[ F_{n+1} - F_n \to 0\\ \] Which is writ as: \[ f_{n+1}(F_n) - F_n \to 0\\ \] But this just expands as: \[ \sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{\partial^k}{\partial z^k}f_{n+1}(F_n) \frac{(z-F_n)^k}{k!}\\ \] At this point, mine and Keen's work is very similar. It's what we do next that's different. The first thing I do, is prove that \(F_n\) is normal; thereby it's a bounded sequence. Keen does the same thing; but she specifies a very general result which appears to be equivalent to this sequence being normal. At this point, I would introduce a summation condition. We don't need it with Keen though; as we have included a contraction in her idea. Which is that \(F_{n} : \mathbb{D} \to K\), where \(K\) is precompact in \(\mathbb{D}\). Which is just that \(\overline{K} \subset \mathbb{D}\). This is really the shooting gun that does everything. Essentially if \(F_n\) shrinks the unit disk as a normal family, it must converge to a constant. Which, I've never really thought about before, but makes perfect sense. So what happens is that this Taylor series looks like: \[ \sum_{k=1}^\infty \rho_n^k (z-\lambda)^k\\ \] Where the sum \(\sum_n \rho_n < \infty\). Which gives us convergence. This is sort of a hybridization of how I interpret the first half of her paper, and my own work. The actual better part, and valuable part, is the dynamics portion. This is on the difference between nondegenerate and degenerate infinite compositions. Let \(K \subset \mathbb{D}\), and let \(f_n : \mathbb{D} \to K\). Then the infinite composition is degenerate. In fact, the only time it can be non degenerate is if \(K = \mathbb{D}\). Which is a well known theorem to me and Gill. It's kind of no duh. But this is a fantastic treatment nonetheless. Additionally, Keen has definitely made some great novel results I haven't really seen before. But again, it's useless, at say, proving the beta function converges. Or even proving weird outer compositions converge; which there are many. To be honest, the subject of this result, is a generalization of \(f_n(z) = \lambda z\) (for \(|\lambda| < 1\)) and therefore: \[ \mho_{j=1}^\infty f_n(z)\,\bullet z = \lim_{n\to\infty} \lambda^n z = 0\\ \] As she has assumed that \(f_n : \mathbb{D} \to K\), where \(K\) is a contraction of \(\mathbb{D}\)--the two ideas are more than comparable. Again, a very complex dynamical result. Beautiful nonetheless ![]() EDIT: There's another author, I'll try to find them, who proves a similar result to Keen. Which kind of let me coin my own internal meaning "Infinite composition of Blaschke products". Blaschke products are products of automorphisms of \(\mathbb{D}\); where by when you add infinite compositions; you multiply and compose Blaschke products. I believe, if we add the additional assumption that \(F_n \to 0\), which is always possible because they exist in the unit disk (Just apply an automorphism); then Keen's result simplifies even further--to what is a result dating back a much longer time. This was my inspiration for section 2 of \(\Delta y = e^{sy}\) Or, How I Learned To Stop Worrying and love the \(\Gamma\) function. I wanted to do what they had done with Blaschke products/infinite compositions, and generalize it to arbitrary functions \(f : \mathbb{D} \to \mathbb{D}\). This has everything to do with the non-degenerate case. BUT! in the Blaschke product paper, if memory serves me correctly, they show exactly where we are degenerate or non-degenerate. Keen's paper reminds me of this the more I read it, lol. RE: Major references - MphLee - 12/22/2022 Thanks for this commentary. It will be really useful in the future. Now it did help make my mind a lil bit. A quick search on keywords led me to this recent paper that may bring some useful bibliographic pointer. -2022, Ferreira - A note on forward iteration of inner functions To be honest I got a ton of interesting pointers... since it came to my mind that there is a term for dealing with iterated function systems and is non-autonomous dynamical systems, opposed to autonomous ones. Autonomous systems are just representation of time semigroups, i.e. semigroup homomorphisms. While non-autonomous systems are representations of categories... i.e. functors... just like your omega notation. -2018, Bracci et al. - BACKWARD ORBITS AND PETALS OF SEMIGROUPS OF HOLOMORPHIC SELF-MAPS OF THE UNIT DISC -2018, Bracci et al. - ASYMPTOTIC BEHAVIOR OF ORBITS OF HOLOMORPHIC SEMIGROUPS -2020, Bracci, Roth - SEMIGROUP-FICATION OF UNIVALENT SELF-MAPS OF THE UNIT DISC -2022, Benini et al. - The Denjoy–Wolff set for holomorphic sequences, non-autonomous dynamical systems and wandering domains I'm always positively surprised by how much of different keywords there are on almost the same topic. Also is descriptive of how much I'm still ignorant on the subject after all these years wandering in the literature. I remember asking myself few months ago, when I discovered the theorem, if the Denjoy–Wolff point was important or useful. Idk if I ever heard of it on this forum before but I'm sure its a pretty standard result. RE: Major references - Daniel - 12/23/2022 The Ultimate Story Back in the early days of the Internet a gentleman referred to as Dr. Chaos had the ultimate fascinating posting. He alleged that every few years Stephen Smale, Ralph Abrams and a few other uber elites of dynamics met at Berkeley for a few days to discuss progress in fractional iteration. RE: Major references - JmsNxn - 12/24/2022 (12/22/2022, 11:13 AM)MphLee Wrote: Thanks for this commentary. It will be really useful in the future. Now it did help make my mind a lil bit. HAHAHAHAHA! I HAVE PRIORITY ON FEREIRA They hide this by saying: \[ \sum_{n=0}^\infty |1 - f_n'(0)| < \infty \] But this is my condition: \[ \sum_{n=0}^\infty |f_n(z) -z| < \infty\\ \] When we restrict \(f_n : \mathbb{D} \to \mathbb{D}\)--these are equivalent statements! THANK GOD I PUBLISHED A LOT IN 2020!!! To generalize, the beginning of my paper: "The Compositional Integral: The Narrow And The Complex Looking Glass"; gave the result: \[ f_n: G \to G\\ \] Then if: \[ \sum_{n=0}^\infty \sup_{z \in K }|f_n(z) -z| < \infty\\ \] For all compact \(K \subset G\); then: \[ \begin{align} g(z) &= \Omega_{j=1}^\infty f_j(z)\bullet z\\ h(z) &=\mho_{j=1}^\infty f_j(z) \bullet z\\ \end{align} \] Were both analytic functions taking \(G \to G\). This was originally proved in \(\Delta y = e^{sy}\). I gloss over the "forward iteration part", but The narrow and complex looking glass completely justifies this once you can rigorously invert; which you can so long as \(f'(z) \neq 0\), which always happens because \(f_n \to z\)...\(f'_n(z) \to 1\), for large enough \(n\). I apologize Mphlee, but Everything in this paper is work I did 2-5 years ago. God I love being right! ![]() Sorry for being snarky, but some of this stuff just appears as old news to me, lol. I never did too much with forward iteration systems; just for the non-degenerate case, I mapped it back to backwards iteration systems. Especially because forward iteration systems have training wheels. They are very simple. Backwards iteration systems are the real OG; but much harder to work with. If you solve forward iteration systems; it tells you nothing about backwards iteration systems. If you solve backward iteration systems; it tells you everything about forward iteration systems. ![]() Either way I'm excited for this stuff to hit the mainstream more, and more people work on it. Just saying, "hey mphlee, this is like 2 pages from my 90 page thesis," lol. Not to knock Fereira, who clearly came to this independently. But in 2015 I had his condition, and communicated to a few people at U of T; which culminated to my paper in 2019 which proved a much much more general result. Then in 2020, I added the differential calculus stuff; and I stated the theorem Theorem 1.2.1--The Compactly Normal Convergence Theorem Which appears in Through the looking glass... (2020). The actual details of this theorem are handled by \(\Delta y = e^{sy}\) ; Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love the \(\Gamma\)-function (2019). And it states a very broad generalization of Fereira's work. EDIT: If you'll hear me out. In 2015 I had the condition, if \(f_n : \mathbb{D} \to \mathbb{D}\) where \(\mathbb{D}\) is the unit disk. Then: \[ \begin{align} g(z) &= \Omega_{j=1}^\infty f_j(z)\\ h(z) &= \mho_{j=1}^\infty f_j(z) \end{align} \] Converged to functions \(g,h:\mathbb{D} \to \mathbb{D}\) so long as: \[ \sum_{j=0}^\infty |f'_j(0) - 1| < \infty\\ \] This is essentially Ferreira's result, but he's only shown it for \(\mho\). My breakthrough in around 2017-2018, was that, on the unit disk: \[ |z||f'_j(0) - 1| < |f_j(z) -z| \le |f_j(0)|+ |z||f_j'(0) - 1 + \sum_{k=1}^\infty b_kz^k|\\ \] Where then, if you work with the right hand side; and only worry about: \[ \sum_{j=0}^\infty |f_j(z) - z| < \infty\\ \] We do kickflips on what Ferreira does Now this reduces into a specific equation: \[ \sum_{j=0}^\infty |f_j(z) - z| < \sum_j^\infty |f_j(0)| + |z||f_j'(0) - 1|\\ \] This is Ferreira's approach; which is me in 2015. Obviously this is garbage. You cannot expand from the unit disk to arbitrary domains. For fuck's sake; Mphlee, please understand I am better than everyone at fucking infinite compositions. My work just hasn't been fully published yet. Where we assume that \(\sum_j f_j(0) \) converges. If \(\Omega_j f_j(0)\) doesn't converge--then we are degenerate. If it does converge, then that means \(\sum_j f_j(0)\) converges (proving this is really tricky; again, mphlee, I'll have my moment. I'll have my moment of confirmation, U of T professors have worked with me a lot. And I will and will not say that I met donald Knuth ). Additionally it implies \(f'_j(0)-1\) must converge in some form."Since the linearization converges, the actual composition converges" Since \(f_j(z) = a_j + b_j (z-z_0) + O(z-z_0)^2\) and: \[ \begin{align} \sum_j |a_j| &< \infty\\ \sum_j | b_j - 1| &< \infty\\ \end{align} \] Where, with a normality condition: \[ |f_j(z) - z| < a_j + |z-z_0||b_j -1| + O(z-z_0)^2\\ \] Which is the mathematics Fereira is using. This never works as a proof system. The math is too hard for that. But this is a good heuristic "it looks something like this". Consider this sum "compactly normally"; then this object converges for any set \(G\); not just the unit disk \(\mathbb{D}\). This is about the half way marker of \(\Delta y = e^{sy}\). From there, I was able to derive holomorphy in something like \(\Omega f_j(s,z)\); so long as the above sum converged "compactly normally". Not to toot my own horn, but it's nice to see social empirical justification of your work. It's like "reproducibility of the experiment" but for mathematics ![]() Not gonna lie or brag. I didn't talk about it a lot; and I don't; but I will now. I met Donald Knuth in 2019. And we talked for an hour--highlight of my life. I got money shit, Vittorio. We met on a professional sense. Ima go full torch on everything now. I've proved a lot. I'm going to explain as much as I can. RE: Major references - JmsNxn - 12/26/2022 I just realized you may not be familiar with Schwarz's lemma. If \(f(z) : \mathbb{D} \to \mathbb{D}\) and \(f(0) =0 \); then: \[ |f(z)| \le |f'(0)||z| \] In the infinite composition case; since \(f(z) : \mathbb{D} \to \mathbb{D}\); there is a unique fixed point \(z_0\) (the benefit of using a simply connected domain). Thereby: \[ g(z) = h(f(h^{-1}(z))\\ \] Where \(h: \mathbb{D} \to \mathbb{D}\) biholomorphically; and sends \(z_0 \to 0\). Then: \[ g'(0) = f'(z_0)\\ \] The value \(h'(z_0)\) is the value of a Blashcke product (too lazy to do all the fine details); where it acts as the derivative of an automorphism. The following is an equivalent statement. If: \[ \sum_{j=0}^\infty |f_j'(0) -1| < \infty\\ \] Then the sum \(\sum_{j=0}^\infty |f(z) -z| < \infty\). BUT!!!! This is only true for the unit disk. If you change into a different simply connected domain; things get much more complicated; and these statements are not equivalent. You'll have to modify some steps... This is because \(|h(f(h^{-1}(z))| \le |z| |f'(z_0)|\). Now the infinite compositions cancel out... at least to a point. The fixed points \(z_0\) can move around; but since \(f_j'(0) \to 1\), we are guaranteed \(f_j(z) \to z\), because we are guaranteed \(f\) fixes the unit disk. The unique function to satisfy \(f(z) : \mathbb{D} \to \mathbb{D}\) and \(f'(0) = 1\) is \(f(z) = z\). Therefore \(z_0 \to 0\). And we are just checking that: \[ 0 \neq \prod_{j=1}^\infty f_j'(0) \neq \infty \] The quick and easy way is to just say: \[ \sum_{j=1}^\infty |f_j'(0) -1| < \infty\\ \] Which dates to Weierstrass... Which is my old condition (Fereira's condition). But this is equivalent to just asking: \[ \sum_{j=1}^\infty |f_j(z) - z| < \infty\\ \] On the Unit Disk, Fereira's condition looks easier and nicer. But it's a very special case. And not open to generalization. Can't stress enough that this only happens because of super nice Unit Disk behaviour, small well behaved area. This will not follow on general simply connected domains (though it'll be something similar), and will not follow on domains (Open and connected sets). But it's a great start ![]() EDIT: Also, since I mentioned Donald Knuth in the last post. He was the one to suggest to me, instead of writing: \[ \Omega_{j=1}^n f_j(z) \bullet z \bullet \Omega_{j=n+1}^\infty f_j(z) \bullet z = \Omega_{j=1}^\infty f_j(z) \bullet z\\ \] I should just write: \[ \Omega_{j=1}^n f_j(z) \bullet \Omega_{j=n+1}^\infty f_j(z) \bullet z= \Omega_{j=1}^\infty f_j(z) \bullet z\\\\ \] So he helped with the bullet notation !!!!!! The whole \(f \bullet g \bullet z\) was kinda his idea in some respects. I had a rough sketch; but it didn't fit right, and was clunky. He helped me stream line some shit. He really added a "functional programming" element to it, lmao.
RE: Major references - marcokrt - 12/26/2022 (12/17/2022, 01:23 AM)MphLee Wrote:(12/14/2022, 05:56 AM)JmsNxn Wrote: I know mphlee, who's much more organized than me, has a list of major publications in the scope of tetration. He could be more help here, lol. Awesome list! I would like to just point out that my real surname is "Ripà" (instead of "Ripa", a very common mistake indeed), mentioning also the last paper that I have written together with the other TetrationForum user "Luca Onnis", entitled "Number of stable digits of any integer tetration", which completes the trilogy on the congruence speed that I started by submitting to Notes on Number Theory and Discrete Mathematics, in 2019, the manuscript entitled "On the constant congruence speed of tetration" (see NNTDM, Vol. 26(3), pp. 245-260, DOI: 10.7546/nntdm.2020.26.3.245-260). After that, I finally managed to provide an inverse map of this new function (assuming that radix-10 is given by hypothesis), the congruence speed of any integer tetration with the base which is not a multiple of 10, by publishing the mentioned paper entitled "The congruence speed formula" (available also on the arXiv at https://arxiv.org/abs/2208.02622). Then, me and Luca have finally provided also the direct map of the "congruence speed of tetration" by considering the valuation function (applied to a few very simple manipulations of the given base) of the divisors of the squarefree value of the considered numerical system (i.e., 2 and 5, since 10 = 2 · 5) thanks to the paper titled "Number of stable digits of any integer tetration", which closes the bounds that I previously gave in "The congruence speed formula", by providing extended proofs based on the theorems published in "The congruence speed formula", so I think that it would be the best to mention both "The congruence speed formula" and "Number of stable digits of any integer tetration" (arXiv version: https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.07956) in order to provide the full map of this peculiar property of the integer tetration, named "constant congruence speed". Just my two cents. RE: Major references - JmsNxn - 12/26/2022 (12/26/2022, 08:40 AM)marcokrt Wrote: ......... I am very interested in your work; as it deals with digit analysis. You've uncovered a general structure that the digts play. Have you ever tried \(\sqrt{2}\), and dealing with similar modular results? As an analyst myself; I tend to not be so worried about the digit patterns that appear in \(^52\). But if such a digit pattern were to appear in \(\sqrt{2}\), this would define an algebraic result. Not to spoil what you are doing. I have followed your posts closely. I suggest reading about \(p\)-adic analysis. I cannot reduce your results to \(p\)-adic results. But for fucks sakes; it smells like it. There is a \(p\)-adic interpretation of your result. I do not know it; but I could probably work a guess. In this language you should find a clearer version of your formula. Not to degrade your result; you have done great work. Just to suggest--I believe we can transplant this idea. Either way; I apologize if I'm being presumptuous. I'm just trying to help
RE: Major references - marcokrt - 12/26/2022 (12/26/2022, 11:53 AM)JmsNxn Wrote:(12/26/2022, 08:40 AM)marcokrt Wrote: ......... Thank you for your interest, I would be very glad if you (or anyone else on this forum) will publish further results about the congruence speed concept, generalizing what I have written and going beyond. Basically, my starting idea is just to "count" how many digits frozes each unitary increment of the hyperexponent (and we could apply this also to hyper-\(3\) or hyper-\(5\), in general we have a function of the base and the (hyper)-exponent, which turns to not depend on the (hyper)-exponent under certain circumstances). Then, by assuming radix-\(10\) and that the base is a positive integer which is not congruent to \(0\) modulo \(10\) by hypotesis, everything comes from the \(15\) solutions of the fifth degree equation \(y^t=y\) in the ring of decadic integers, since \(10\) is not a prime. Now, since I am just a self-taught amateur in number theory, I am aware that the behaviour of \(p\)-adic numbers is "good" and smooth if compared to the behaviour of \(g\)-adic ones (where \(g\) is not prime). In general, I strongly believe that we can reply what we already did in "Number of stable digits of any integer tetration" (see equation 16) for any \(g\) that is a squarefree semiprime and also if \(g\) is a generic squarefree composite number, maybe... but it would be a great step forward if you can write something that shows this by using only \(p\)-adic analysis, best wishes! RE: Major references - MphLee - 12/27/2022 (12/26/2022, 08:40 AM)marcokrt Wrote: Awesome list! I would like to just point out that my real surname is "Ripà" (instead of "Ripa", a very common mistake indeed), mentioning also the last paper that I have written together with the other TetrationForum user "Luca Onnis", entitled "Number of stable digits of any integer tetration", which completes the trilogy on the congruence speed that I started by submitting to Notes on Number Theory and Discrete Mathematics, in 2019, the manuscript entitled "On the constant congruence speed of tetration" (see NNTDM, Vol. 26(3), pp. 245-260, DOI: 10.7546/nntdm.2020.26.3.245-260). Hi Marco, forgive me for the typo. I'm actually well aware of your surname, I'm also italian so I don't have the excuse for being not used to accents. The reason for the error is, I was copy-pasting the name of the files in my folder on the forum, and windows do not accept special symbols naming the files then I had no enough time to double check the post. Thanks for the contribution btw. I'll update my folder with your work. Some work on number theory related to hyperoperations is always welcome imho... since it is an underdeveloped topic. We need to face the problem from multiple viewpoints. Cordialmente ps: mi sono preso la liberta di usare i miei poteri da mod per editare il tuo ultimo messaggio e sistemare la sintassi LaTex, adesso aprendo il post puoi controllare come va fatta. You have to write "\ (" before a formula and "\ )" as closure. |